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Posté le: Sam Juin 21, 2025 5:14 pm Sujet du message: Continuing a charge - pursuing evaders |
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A line of 3 impetuous Cv makes an ordered attack on an evasion-capable enemy. The central Cv will make contact. The enemy evades. Are the flank Cv units, which would give support if contact was made, mandated to continue their charge?
(Granted you probably want to keep the Cv together anyway, regardless of the direction the enemy evades.)
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Mark G Fry
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Posté le: Sam Juin 21, 2025 7:32 pm Sujet du message: |
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Have you declared a charge with all 3 or just the one that could make contact?
If you don't declare all three charging at the start the sequence is as follows:
1) the unit with the LC in charge range is ordered to charge.
2) the enemy LC declares an evade & evades
3) the unit that was ordered to charge dices to see how far they will charge (& might charge long)
4) then you either order the other two units to move (as there is no unit now to charge) or you leave them where they are as there is no obligatory charge (as there is no target)
Of course if the charging unit charges long the other two wont be able to move up in line with it anyway
The HC must all be ordered to charge, as all 3 would touch the enemy LC - or you could order the central 1 and leave the other 2 to either be ordered into line, as two separate orders or charges, or make an uncontrolled charge into support if the LC stands - but I cannot really see the benefit in that approach.
Or
1) you declare a charge with all 3 units
2) the LC evades
3) you dice to see how far all 3 units charge
Or
1) you don't order a charge with any of the 3 units, but the HC facing the LC must make an obligatory uncontrolled charge, but only at the very end of other ordered movement.
2) the LC evades
3) you dice for how far the uncontrolled charge moves
4) as uncontrolled charges are made in a sequence, not simultaneously, the moment the LC evades from 1 uncontrolled charge, the other 2 HC have no target (unless it is to their flanks) so will remain stationary.
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Neep
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Posté le: Sam Juin 21, 2025 7:43 pm Sujet du message: |
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Sorry, yes it is an ordered group charge. (I've revised the OP.) The issue is whether the flank units in position to provide support are therefore "pursuing evaders". I think the answer is yes but I'm not certain. |
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Posté le: Sam Juin 21, 2025 9:39 pm Sujet du message: |
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Yes, thanks Martin. I see you feel potential support must chase evaders.
BTW I disagree with your first slide. If none evade, then there is no minimum charge distance set. (section 5 goes straight to section 8). |
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Posté le: Dim Juin 22, 2025 7:38 am Sujet du message: |
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Neep a écrit: | BTW I disagree with your first slide. If none evade, then there is no minimum charge distance set. (section 5 goes straight to section . |
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Neep
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Posté le: Dim Juin 22, 2025 2:17 pm Sujet du message: |
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It says "Minimal optional advance", which I think most readers would see as precluding an advance less than that.
Just trying to be helpful. |
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