Art De La Guerre

[Andy Fyfe]

Hi Guys,

I have a Light Infantry in a plantation (0.5 UD from the edge of the terrain).

I am shooting at another LI outside of the terrain in the open.

What are the modifiers?

From the QRS 'Shooting resolution' table I would say that the only applicable modifier is 'LI or LH shooting -1'.

LI or LH shooting = Yes
Target in cover or behind a fortification = No
Shooter is disordered = No
Shooter from cover or in difficult terrain except LI = No
LMI, MI, HI with bow/crossbow/firearm vs. mounted = No
For each supporting unit (max +3, LI/LH count as ½) = No

The 'Target in cover or behind a fortification' is not applicable - the target is not in cover.

p59 states:

Terrain cover and fortifications:
The cover given by terrain or fortifications is effective only if the line of sight of the shooter passes through the terrain or the fortification.

The line of sight of the shooter does pass through the plantation but the target is not in cover (i.e. in the plantation).

This rule I think is for when the target is not fully in the cover.

Just my thought on the rule; has this been ruled on by the DT (I couldn't find it).

Andy

[Zoltan]

Andy is there a particular reason you are raising this hackneyed question now (e.g. you lost a game recently solely due to this issue or perhaps you have too much time on your hands )?

A number of us feel Javier Diaz got the answer to the underlying "shooting cover" question wrong in his ruling that was included in Patrik Lefebvre's Repertoire of Concrete Cases document (French version October 2024, English translation August 2025, p.17). Albeit he was using Bowmen (not LI), Javier double-penalised the Bowmen in a plantation shooting at a target in the open.

Like you, my view is that the target must itself be IN cover, in order for the shooter (regardless of its location) to take "-1 for target in cover".

So in your example of LI shooting at LI:

LI shooting from plantation at target in open: -1
LI target in open +1

LI shooting from open at LI target in plantation: -2
LI target in plantation: +1

[Andy Fyfe]

[Neep]

There seems to be a largely unchallenged opinion in the French rules forum: https://www.artdelaguerre.fr/adlg/v3/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10121 but it's not what I think anyone would call definitive.

[Hazelbark]

[Andy Fyfe]

[Neep]

You might want to add a clarification about when the penalty for maneuvering impetuous units is triggered.