Art De La Guerre

MC_Delicatessen · Auxiliaire Inscrit le: 30 Juil 2020 Messages: 87

From the v4 errata: ”Troops that must evade (p 47) and Destruction of light infantry (page 62)

When it is indicated that LI must be “in terrain” or “in open terrain”, consider the portion of the LI's base that is contacted by the enemy after conformation. If the contacted part of the LI's base is in rough or difficult terrain, the LI does not have to evade.””

There is a language problem here or probably some missing words as this does not make sense. What does ”consider the portion” mean here? ”…base that is contacted” is always the whole base (!) so does it mean edge, what?

I think there are a few possibilities, either:
- If more than half the LI base is in terrain it does not have to evade
- if more than half of the LI edge that is contacted (after conformation) is in terrain it does not have to evade
- if the LI base is entirely in terrain after conformation it does not have to evade

What is the rule here?

(This just came up on the FB group)

Dickstick · Post� le: Dim Jan 02, 2022 10:46 am Sujet du message:

Edge.

Morale of any placement of a unit is put all the base in the terrain. Otherwise you are asking for trouble.
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Ballista · Légionaire Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2018 Messages: 120

Doesn't it was the LI have to be fully in the terrain to start with ?

MC_Delicatessen · Auxiliaire Inscrit le: 30 Juil 2020 Messages: 87

Dickstick · Post� le: Dim Jan 02, 2022 12:04 pm Sujet du message:

I used to be a spert.

Boom boom.
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Mike Bennett · Post� le: Dim Jan 02, 2022 2:24 pm Sujet du message:

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Za Otlichiye · Post� le: Jeu F�v 24, 2022 4:50 am Sujet du message:

I was just looking at the errata about this and then stumbled upon this thread.

I think what's going on is due to page 53 - you do not need to fully conform into penalizing terrain.
Consider LI half in rough. If HI makes first contact in the open, it does not have to conform into the rough. It can stay partially conformed. Therefore the LI must flee.
But rough is not penalizing terrain for MI, so it would conform entirely, and the LI would stand.

Zoltan · Post� le: Jeu F�v 24, 2022 7:59 am Sujet du message:

@ MC_Delicassen

You’re overthinking this.

Unfortunately, the errata writer has used the word “portion” when they should have used the word “part”. You’ll see they’ve used “part” in the following sentence.

What it means is:

1. Whether or not LI MUST evade depends on the terrain (if any) the part of the LI’s base that would be contacted is in (if the LI did not evade).

2. If the contact part of the LI base is in the open, the LI MUST be evade if charged by heavy troops etc.

It doesn’t matter what proportion of the total base is represented by the contacted part.