Art De La Guerre

[Ballista]

In the sequence of placing ambushes it is defender then attacker.

Are you required to write down before this on the player sheet where your ambush markers are going to be placed, or are they simply placed on the table in order (defender/attacker) ? and location chosen as they are placed.

Second to this, how do you record what is in each ambush marker? (on the player sheet)?

[madaxeman]

[Ramses II]

Agreed. You place the markers first (defender then attacker) then write down your deployment (including which units are in the different ambushes.)

Remember to place each marker carefully as each of the units in each ambush must be invisible initially, and must be deployed if they can be seen after an enemy unit has moved (eg enemy LC moving around a flanking hill). 

[Ballista]

Thanks both for the clarification, think I'll forgo the forehead option though.

Still thinking in WRG terms for ambushes.

[Neep]

Minor nitpick - the sequence on page 72 says specify then deploy. Really it only matters if the attacker can finagle their ambushes after seeing where the defender goes.

[Ballista]

[Ramses II]

No. 
The ambush markers are placed on the table (defender first then attacker) before any plans are made. So these may be fake (ie empty) or they may ultimately contain up to four units each. The players then write down their deployment plans for each corps;

• Where it will deploy relative to the other corps,
  
• Which unit(s) are in which ambush marker
  
• If the entire corps is flank marching, which flank it is arriving on

Personally I create a small grid on the back of the army sheet which quickly defines these options:-

  . . . . . . (L)eft . (C)enter . (R)ight
(T)able
(A)mbush 
(F)lank

Then I can easily add numbers for each corps on (T)able, and note the units in (A)mbush. 

Time is of the essence at this stage in the game. You want to get on whilst being able to demonstrate later (if absolutely necessary) that you really did put those elite impact heavy knights in that ambush

[Hazelbark]

[Ramses II]

My bad - written too late at night 

[Hazelbark]

[Ramses II]

While I like a good Bordeaux - St Julien for preference (which I can still just about afford) - I think a ‘light red’ is more appropriate for the KC Chiefs. A cracking game with some amazing moments, and crazy refereeing. 

And we think we have it bad refereeing ADLG V4 . . . 

[daveallen]

I agree with the general thrust of the comments about being fairly relaxed on ambushes. For the most part I don't often use them other than as a way to slow down an attacker's initial moves. However, I understand that in earlier versions of the rules this relaxed attitude was sometimes taken advantage of. Especially in cases where an entire command could be in ambush or on a flank march.

So in tournament play you should expect to have your deployment orders checked at some point and record them properly, ideally on the deployment sheet provided in the "Tournaments" tab above.



Dave
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[Mark G Fry]

One slightly obscure but related question.

In a situation where one player has units in an ambush behind a hill crest - but his opponent has an ambush set up in such a way that troops in his own ambush could (potentially) see the opposing troops behind the hill crest. Is the hillcrest ambush still valid?
Or do the unit (in ambush that could see the hill crest ambush) have to actually be deployed on table to negate/reveal the hillcrest ambush?
If that all makes sense.

Thanks

[Ramses II]

Hi Mark.
In brief, ambushes may not be deployed in a location where the units can be seen, irrespective of whether an opposing ambush is actually used. 
So no, that situation cannot arise. 

[Neep]

Page 77 "Placing Ambushes" bullet 4.