Art De La Guerre

[Hazelbark]

Let me step in here with a blunt clarification of what Lionel is saying.

You may not voluntarily reveal an ambush of a hesitant corps. p80. I know everyone suffering this thread gets that. The operative question is what is an available option before the corps has tested to see if it reliable or hesitant.

Therefore:
You should take the rule (p 80 right side bullets 1 and 2) to include a corps that has not yet tested. Meaning a "potentially hesitant corps" may not voluntarily reveal an ambush.

Lionel has articulated why he sees this in the rules.


I now add "French whisperer" to my many honorifics although that sounds like a rude toy.

[KevinD]

Thanks Dan, Lionel, et al. I really appreciate you guys explicitly clarifying this.

[ALEXANDER]

Page 80 Hesitant Corps
Second sentence

A hesitant corps cannot voluntarily reveal its ambushes



But a player could move with a unit of another corps
... through the ambush marker of the hesitant corps

Page 77
An ambush is automatically revealed if...
A friendly unit passes through the marker

The ambush of the hesitant corps would then be revealed
and ..if there is any enemy within 4 UD...
...the corps would become reliable

[madaxeman]

[Neep]

It's a clever idea, but if you check the cross-referenced page 39, you will find that while you can interpenetrate units in ambush, you cannot interpenetrate unreliable units.

"You have to know these things when you're king."

[KevinD]

What if you pass through the marker but don’t interpenetrate the unreliable unit(s) in ambush? 😝

(NB - this can often happen where at least one ambushing unit is not 1 UD x 1 UD)

[Neep]

It's a bit batty. You can always expose the ambush and then interpenetrate it, and you would pretty much have to, to see if you can. So really the rule should be you cannot pass through the ambush, you must expose it first, but you may pass by it without elaboration because otherwise it's such a fuss.

[Zoltan]

[Neep]

Then Alexander's cheese is back on the table.

-Ok, hold my beer

-But wait, it says "pass through" - start on one side the finish on the other

-But that's okay, you can move through the empty 10 or 20 millimeters!

[Dickstick]

[ALEXANDER]

What is the conclusion?

Is it possible to activate another corps first ..
...and move through a marker of your potentially unreliable corps in the first turn?

...or is it forbidden to move through such a marker in the first turn?

[Mark G Fry]

[lionelrus]

[Mark G Fry]

Yes, the Holy Hand-grenade might be the only way out of this one ...

But the question is ... if the rabbit is impetuous and subject to an uncontrollable charge and is in Ambush more than 1 UD inside a Village, as your advancing knights cannot see more than 1UD inside a Village, can they come closer than 4UDs as they don't know the rabbit there? But also how can the rabbit be activated at 4UDs if it cannot see more than 1 UD inside the Village, so it doesn't know your knights are creeping up on it until they are at or under 1 UD from the rabbit in ambush. Ah ha!

At this point, (I apologies deeply) I am going to run away .... I thank you!

[Dickstick]

Brave sir Robin
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