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deuf8881
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Posté le: Ven Jan 07, 2022 10:05 pm Sujet du message: |
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An allready played army :
Attila -Strategist
5 HI impetuous
1 Bw
2 LI bow
5 MC bow elite
1 LH bow elite Â
1 LH bow
Competent
4 HC impetuous
Ordinary included
1 LH bow elite
3 LH bow
1 fortified camp _________________ Attila : "Joins-toi à nous, je ne serais pas pire que l'Empereur que tu sers aujourd'hui."
Aetius : "Je sers Rome."
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Black Prince
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Posté le: Sam Jan 08, 2022 3:42 am Sujet du message: |
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Thanks for posting your list, I appreciate it. |
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ALEXANDER
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Posté le: Ven Jan 21, 2022 11:37 am Sujet du message: |
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Compared to my last list, this list might even be better.
Attila strategist included*
4 MC bow*
4 Hc impetuous Sciri
2 Lc bow
2 bowmen mediocre
SG ordinary included*
6 MC bow*
2 bowmen mediocre.
Allied Heruls
SG ordinary unreliable included*
4 Hc impetuous*
2 Li javelin
What are your experiences so far? Which list of V4 do you prefer? |
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ALEXANDER
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Posté le: Ven Jan 21, 2022 12:25 pm Sujet du message: |
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I realized the Heruls just have to take 1 Li
This list might be a compromise
Attila strategist included*
5 MC bow*
4 Hc impetuous Sciri
1 Lc bow elite
1 Lc bow
2 bowmen ordinary
SG ordinary included*
6 MC bow*
Allied Heruls
SG ordinary unreliable included*
4 Hc impetuous*
1 Li javelin |
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KevinD
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Inscrit le: 23 Aoû 2021 Messages: 500
Localisation: Texas
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Posté le: Ven Jan 21, 2022 2:27 pm Sujet du message: |
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ALEXANDER a écrit: | I realized the Heruls just have to take 1 Li |
Remember, if an ally has to only take one of something it is (semi) optional. For allies, you only have to take anything with a minimum of one if you take anything with a minimum of zero. See the bottom right of p 87, including the examples to see how it works. |
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deuf8881
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Posté le: Ven Jan 21, 2022 10:18 pm Sujet du message: |
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ALEXANDER a écrit: | I realized the Heruls just have to take 1 Li
This list might be a compromise
Attila strategist included*
5 MC bow*
4 Hc impetuous Sciri
1 Lc bow elite
1 Lc bow
2 bowmen ordinary
SG ordinary included*
6 MC bow*
Allied Heruls
SG ordinary unreliable included*
4 Hc impetuous*
1 Li javelin |
I think you have too much included generals, and in no elite unit too.
Don’t forget MC are vulnerable to shooting with 0 protection.
How do you play impetuous unit with a general included in another unit ?
Included a strategist is dangerous. _________________ Attila : "Joins-toi à nous, je ne serais pas pire que l'Empereur que tu sers aujourd'hui."
Aetius : "Je sers Rome."
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ALEXANDER
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Posté le: Ven Jan 21, 2022 10:39 pm Sujet du message: |
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deuf8881 a écrit: |
I think you have too much included generals |
I had the same thought today.
So perhaps I would just change the second Li javelin for a free strategist C-C
..and one Lc Bow Upgrade to elite.
Actually I prefer ordinary generals to be included
and use the close fight Bonus.
...and if 1 unit of a group of 6 MC bow gets a loss
It is easier to rally the generals unit than the other units.
It is not efficient to have a HC elite General
and then be forced to rally a Mc Bow unit,
your general is not included in.
In other words.....
I like losses that I can rally with a bigger probability and cheaper once the General.is in combat.
No risk no fun
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KevinD
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Localisation: Texas
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Posté le: Sam Jan 22, 2022 3:10 am Sujet du message: |
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ALEXANDER a écrit: | I realized the Heruls just have to take 1 Li
This list might be a compromise
Attila strategist included*
5 MC bow*
4 Hc impetuous Sciri
1 Lc bow elite
1 Lc bow
2 bowmen ordinary
SG ordinary included*
6 MC bow*
Allied Heruls
SG ordinary unreliable included*
4 Hc impetuous*
1 Li javelin |
Do MC really support Impetuous HI well? It seems like their desire to evade for self preservation will leave the flanks of the HI uncovered. |
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ALEXANDER
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Posté le: Sam Jan 22, 2022 12:50 pm Sujet du message: |
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I have repeatedly played the Huns as a pure MC bow army against the Ostrogoths as a pure Hc impetuous plus bowmen army.
You can't just evade and shoot till you end up at your table edge.
As a Hun you need a field in front of your deployment zone, where your own archers are and fire at the Goths.
..or your own Heavy Cavalry that is able to fight the Ostrogots on a flank early. Then the line of HC breaks into pieces and you can start flank attacks on the Goths on your own |
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