Art De La Guerre

[Hazelbark]

[ALEXANDER]

[ALEXANDER]

[ALEXANDER]

What is also annoying about the new rule with the turn and the maximum of 2 Warwagen is
...that you cannot simply turn around a column of 3 or 4 Warwagen

It has nothing to do with the space either. Each Warwagon stays in place and only turns 90 degrees

I do not understand why this new rule is not just used for quarter turn but for half turns as well.

[madaxeman]

[ALEXANDER]

Why get so personal?
I'm just pointing out that the capabilities of the War Wagon troop type with blades are underexplained.

What happens when you are in contact with the enemy's flank and no other unit is fighting the enemy head-on. ...or if you even disengaged this unit? !!!

Nowhere is it written that WWg with blades can fight only with its front edge.

Bringing the side edge ....or even the rear.... of a war wagon with blades into contact with an enemy will result in a melee. ...and the warwagen does not count as beeing flanking.
The enemy unit however might be If the warwagon started the movement behind the flank line

[Hazelbark]

[Hazelbark]

[daveallen]

[daveallen]

[ALEXANDER]

Some examples ...just to make sure I understood
The WW is a wagon with blade (of Player B)
AA and BB are Cavalry


1.)

AA
BBWW
.....WW
.....WW
.....WW

simple support

2.)
The war wagon moves forward 1 UD in its own turn

.....WW
AAWW
BBWW
.... WW

Its still a simple support in the turn of player B,
as the warwagon did not begun behind the flank of AA
...but in the next turn (Player A)
the combat factor of AA is zero
+ melee support +1+factor=3 for BB

3.)

.....WW
AAWW
BBWW
.....WW

Same start situation as 2.)
but its players B turn and Player B turns the warwagon 90° to the left

.....WWWW
AAWWWW
BB

Multiple attack

4.)
The warwagon starts its movement behind AA flank but Not in contact with AA. Its players B turn


........WW
AA...WW
BB...WW
........WW

The warwagon shifts 1 UD to the left to contact AA
(or turns 90° to the right)

NO CHARGE = no multiple attack
BUT a melee support
Combat factor of AA is zero
Melee support of +3 for BB

Are these examples right?

[daveallen]

1) Yes

2) No. It is only a multiple attack when it is in front edge to flank contact. Similarly for melee support.

3) Yes

4) See the answer to 2)

Dave
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[Dickstick]

Are wwg limited to 45° wheels.?
Turn to flank is only part of a formation change.?
Sorry no rules to hand.
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[daveallen]

They cannot wheel more than 45°.

They aren't unmanoeuvrable and can turn 180° or 90° at a cost of 1 CP and 2 UD.

Dave
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[ALEXANDER]

I am already totally confused

..but I guess this is just because I instinctly think the long side of a WWg is the side that should fight.

How is this combat played then

.....BBCC
AAWWW
11

Units A to C have attacked the opponents 1 and the Warwagen
Unit A cannot give a support to B, so it had to continue 2 UD and attack 1

The warwagon front is on the left side

In Player A turn

The warwagon fights against BB and CC without suffering a multiple attack
AA suffers a multiple attack?
AA factor is zero but
11 does not get the melee support of the warwagon
because the warwagon is fighting

In the next turn (of the warwagon player) the warwagon has to conform to BB? or CC? To whch unit does it have to conform to?
The other will not fight or give support

...or can he decides that he is fighting against AA
that is already at his front.
..as the phasing player decides which unit is the main unit against a warwagon.