Art De La Guerre

ethan · Signifer Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 347

Some unfortunate knights were ZoCed by an elephant from behind (ignore light cavalry as they are not relevant in this situation). It was not clear to us what the knights could do. The rules for exiting a ZoC (p.34) say:

"other units that cannot evade must make a retreat move without turning away from the enemy. To do this, they retreat directly to their rear..."

Would the knight retreat to their rear - moving up in the photo? Is exiting the ZoC not an option until they spend a move turning around? something else?

Longtooth · Post� le: Ven Jan 09, 2015 12:48 pm Sujet du message:

I don't have my rule book with me now, but it would make sense for the knights to turn to face the 'most threatening enemy', then perform the retreat move.

ethan · Signifer Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 347

That would seem to make sense but the rules don't seem to allow for it...

"...to do this they retreat directly to their rear, without changing orientation"

Longtooth · Post� le: Ven Jan 09, 2015 10:33 pm Sujet du message:

Page 34 says that the following movements are allowed whilst in an enemy's ZoC:
*stay in place;
*advance, make a wheel, or a turn in order to align with the most threatening enemy, move closer to it, or charge it;
*Perform an extension or contraction; or
*retreat to leave a ZoC

On the basis of your response above, I suppose that it would take two turns for your knight to exit the ZoC. On turn one, he would turn to face the elephant. Provided that the elephant does not charge, the knight could then retreat on turn two.

It would be interesting to see whether the French translation has a slightly different wording.

fdunadan · Tribun Inscrit le: 12 Juin 2009 Messages: 978

in French, the Kn can do one of the following move on his next phase:
- stay there (and may be rallying)
-Wheel or 1/4 turn to face the elephant
-move to his rear to quit the ZoC of the elephant. in this case, he is disordered.

he can't do an extension or contraction because it would make him out of the ZoC.
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Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1537

So if his rear would move him closer to the elephant but out of the ZOC he could do it?

hcaille · Post� le: Mar Jan 13, 2015 8:38 am Sujet du message:

Hello

The knight can only exit ZoC by moving on its rear. In this case it is not possible so the knight have to make a half-turn to face the elephant. Then, on the next movement phase he will be able to exit the ZoC.

It is very difficult for troop that cannot evade to exit ennemy ZoC.