Art De La Guerre

[chris6]

Side 40 right colum of the engl. rulebook 3rd bulletpoint:

Any action other than a charge or a movement to bring support to a freind in melee costs 3 CP......

4th bulletpoint:

Charge moves or moves in order to support (or...) a friend already in melee cost 1 CP, or 2 CP if a difficult manoever.

The QRS Sheet says 0 CP for an uncontrolled charge....

OK, i understand if i will not charge or move to support i have to pay 3 CP for the unit or group.

But if i want to charge, do i have to pay 1 or 2 CP as written in bulletpoint 4? Or do i have to pay no cp?


Question 2:

Lets say i have 4 impetous units in a line (group). There is one enemy unit in charge range. Can i move the whole line with the uncontrolled charge or just 3 of them. One that matches the enemy unit and one on each side to support? So the question is: Will the group get divided by uncontrolled charges?

[belinconnux]

1. If you want to charge without disorder you have to pay 1CP.
But, if you have to do a difficult manoeuver to charge (like 1/4 turn) you have to pay 2CP.

2. For a controled charge you can move the group. For an uncontroled charge i think you have to divide your group cause only unit that have target becomme incontroled.

(sorry for my english )
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[sebastosfig]

1/like Bellinconnux
2/ only the impetuous units in charge range of a unit will charge. Not the others. So your group might be split.
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[chris6]

Your english reads by far better than my french would do....maybe because i am from germany?

Ok, I understand point one. If I just do nothing or have no CP left the unit charges uncontrolled which does not cost a CP but disorders the charging unit.

With point 2 its not all clear. Example:

Unit1 Unit2 Unit3 Unit4 (all are impetous and form a valid group)

UnitA(directly in front of Unit2

As far as i understand Unit2 has to charge directly ahead with no CP getting disordered. Unit1 and Unit3 can charge to support without paying a CP getting disordered. Unit4 stays in place. Wright?

[sebastosfig]

If unit 4 is out of charge range, then yes it stays there and doesn't move.
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[Thomas]

But if you pay 1PC to charge, your four units can charge without malus of -1.

And if your 3 units ( U1 U2 U3) have an enemy in their ZOC, the fourt can charge with three others for 0PC
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[chris6]

Ok!

And if unit4 would have been in chargerange? Can it change UnitA in the flank?

[sebastosfig]

Sadly, not if it wasn't already in the flank, at least partly.
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[Thomas]

[chris6]

THX for the help! I will come back to you after the first games when we stumble about the gauls in the carthagian army and there charges....

[micheni]

if i got it right a light cavalry unit can move closer than 2 DU from impetous foot turn their rear to them and provoke an uncontrolled charge!
right?