Art De La Guerre

lionelrus · Post� le: Sam Jan 08, 2022 5:51 pm Sujet du message:

If all units are taken alone, and general is ordinary, MC1 to Mc4, and LC1to LC3 are in command range.
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Ramses II · Post� le: Sam Jan 08, 2022 7:17 pm Sujet du message:

lionelrus · Post� le: Sam Jan 08, 2022 8:18 pm Sujet du message:

In France, we usely consider if you take a 4 Ud long wand and you touch the chef by an end and the tropp by the other, you are in range. This concerns command and shooting range. About Zoc, it's clearly written somewhere it's less than 1UD.
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Mike Bennett · Post� le: Sam Jan 08, 2022 8:34 pm Sujet du message:

ALEXANDER · Vétéran Inscrit le: 28 D�c 2021 Messages: 171

There is not just the word in.
In and up to is used to to describe beeing in command range
..and out to describe the opposite.
There is no at.

Ramses II · Post� le: Sam Jan 08, 2022 9:04 pm Sujet du message:

Ok, I think it will be simpler to check with "the oracle" . . . .

lionelrus · Post� le: Sam Jan 08, 2022 10:17 pm Sujet du message:

Ballista · Légionaire Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2018 Messages: 120

Finally might have a sane answer

This was starting to sound like a sketch from Monty Python and I thinking which one you was John Cleese in disguise

lionelrus · Post� le: Dim Jan 09, 2022 10:02 pm Sujet du message:

It's hard answering a question on a point never seen in game.
At first, included generals are NEVER placed in a end of a line, too much dangerous.
Secondly, players moves their troops in group as often as possible.

usualy, i so don't answer this kinds of questions, i do prefer wait the situation coming in game, as it never occur i'm relax.
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"Quand on a pas de technique, faut y aller à la zob"
Perceval à Yvain et Gauvain.

ALEXANDER · Vétéran Inscrit le: 28 D�c 2021 Messages: 171

I think the question was justified. After all, there seemed to has been a great uncertainty about this.
I am glad that we have now clarified this question.
Imagine this discussion starts at a tournement

One should also consider the further consequences of a different decision.
For example
If HC impetuous would have advanced 4 UD and the attached ordinary general on their rear would have stayed in place,
... the Heavy cavalry would have been out of command range already after their first move.

Final Conclusion
M5 and LC4 are in command range
as the distance is exactly 4 UD and 8 UD

lionelrus · Post� le: Lun Jan 10, 2022 12:21 pm Sujet du message:

Ramses II · Post� le: Lun Jan 10, 2022 4:34 pm Sujet du message:

OK guys and gals, here is the official response

For range measurements (movement, command) and shooting, the distance can be the exact value.
So if a commander has a command range of 4 UD, he commands a unit that is exactly at 4 UD from him.

For example, where there is an ordinary commander included in a group of six units, OABCDE, E is in command range of O.

The same is true for movement range or shooting ranges : when you move or shoot 4 UD, you can move or shoot up to 4 UD.

Zoltan · Post� le: Lun Jan 10, 2022 6:38 pm Sujet du message:

Thanks Ramses. And so to be absolutely clear, what you have said above does NOT apply to ZoC. An enemy unit at precisely 1 UD from the enemy is NOT within the enemy’s ZoC?

To be constrained by an enemy ZoC you must be within (at less than) 1 UD.

Ramses II · Post� le: Lun Jan 10, 2022 11:38 pm Sujet du message:

Za Otlichiye · Post� le: Lun Jan 10, 2022 11:46 pm Sujet du message:

Just noticed the title of this thread is misspelled. This isn't a "Rage", it's a "Rave"! Laughing