Art De La Guerre

[pichuleante]

Hi everyone, we had a situation in a game with very experimented players.
The charriot player wants to charge as a group, in a way that charriot B contact with MI Y and Charriot A continues the charge and contact archer Z.

MI X is heading left so it has no ZoC.

Arguments against group charge:

- A cannot continue the charge because he is in a support situation with charriot B
- A cannot continue charge because for B to contact Y needs to make a slide that puts charriot A in the ZoC of Y and therefore cannot continue charge to Z due to ZoC movements restrictions

Arguments infavor of a group charge

- A cannot support B because after conformation it finish in flank contact with X in ZoC of Z, so if the support is not possible, the continuation of the carge is.
- In the very momment that B contacts Y, Y loses its ZoC allowing A to continue its charge towards Z.

[Andy Fyfe]

[lionelrus]

La solution pour contacter en groupe, le groupe A+B doit faire un pivot, puis charger droit devant, A contacte Z et B contacte Y car après le pivot B est encore la ZOC de Y et A entre dans la ZOC de Z.
A ne contactera pas X car il entre d'abord dans la ZOC de Z. Le respect des zoc étant le principe absolu, A continuera sa charge jusqu'à contacter Z.

Dans la situation décrite, A ne peut jamais venir en support de B. Il n'est pas en situation de support au départ, donc cet argument ne peut jouer ni dans un sens, ni dans l'autre.
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[Neep]

Is there enemy LI immediately before B? If not, I believe you can wheel the group so that B remains in Y's ZoC and A winds up in Z's, and they both then advance on their MTEs.
If it is, then you run into Dan Hazelwood's assertion that you cannot wheel through the LI's position, even though it will be immediately abandoned by their evasion.

A can never end up in support, because ZoC rules hold during conformance, but whether that makes the group charge impossible, or simply allows them to separate and charge in different directions is moot.

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