Art De La Guerre

[Hazelbark]

Art De La Guerre Events
Historicon Convention 2023
Lancaster Pa

Thursday, July 20, 2023
15mm Armies of the Americas
Lists 283-300 (no Spanish Conquistadores allowed)
9 AM, 1PM and 4PM

Friday, July 21, 2023
15mm open*
25mm theme

Saturday, July 22, 2023
15mm theme
25mm open*

Friday and Saturday times 9am to 7 pm.
Rounds: 9 am; 1:30pm; 4:15pm. (Umpire of each may adjust slightly)

Classical Antiquity:
500 BC - 493 AD


* Match ups will be non-club, historical based. If enough attendees we will split into different historical periods
RSVPs appreciated, not required; Version 4, 200 points.
Beginning players welcomed and will be matched for positive learning experience.

questions email Hazelbark2005@yahoo.com

[Hazelbark]

Americas Theme 15mm Results
Thursday, July 20, 2023
200 points, 3 rounds

1 Mike Kennedy, Maya, 259pts
2 Duncan Richards, Chinantec, 207pts
3 Phil Gardocki, Aztec, 198pts
4 Mike Kelley, Inca, 196pts
5 Jeff Robertson, Inca, 193pts
6 Jay Stone, Aztec, 176pts
7 Jeff Wiltrout, Polynesian and Melanesian, 167pts
8 Chuck Hines, Mochica and Chimu, 133pts
9 Spike Monahan, Tupi, 130pts
10 Jeff Herzog, Texcala, 126pts
11 Steve Roper, Aztec, 124pts
12 Tom McMillen, Maya, 77pts

As reported by Sachem Steve Roper.

[Hazelbark]

Historicon '23 Classical/Roman theme 25mm Results
Friday, July 21, 2023
200 points, 3 rounds, 25mm

1 Al Kaplan, Early Imperial Roman, 259pts
2 Tom Mcmillen, Palmyran, 257pts
3 Jay Stone, Palmyran, 225pts
4 Lou Cardinale, Patrician Roman, 209pts
5 Derek Hannan, Late Imperial Roman, 203pts
6 Nick Swales, Late Imperial Roman, 196pts
7 Richard Wolford, Ostrogoth, 192pts
8 Miles Toomey, Warring States, 164pts
9 Tom Zimmerman, Seleucid, 163pts
10 Kurt Holmes, Palmyran, 157pts
11 Jeff Robertson, Sassanid Persian, 155pts
12 Phil Gardocki, Pyrrhic, 150pts
13 Jeff Herzog, Saxon, Anglo-Saxon, Frisian, Jutes, 149pts
14 Mike Kelley, Seleucid, 148pts
15 Nicolas Begue, Early Imperial Roman, 137pts
16 Dan Bigelow, Republican Roman, 131pts
17 Kornel Burnacz, Seleucid, 131pts
18 Dennis Campbell, Early Imperial Roman, 121pts
19 Jim Tobin, Seleucid, 110pts
20 Mark Huml, Classical Greek, 89pts
21 Larry Irons, Gallic, 70pts
22 Joe Alberti, Republican Roman, 45pts


As reported by Archon Steve Roper.

[Hazelbark]

Historicon '23
Classical/Roman theme 15mm Results
Saturday, July 22, 2023
200 points, 3 rounds, 25mm

1 Duncan Richards, Blemmyes, 277pts
2 Bill McCampbell, Commagene, 272pts
(Duncan and Bill were both on three wins)

3 Jeff Robertson, Kushan, 219pts
4 Tom Zimmerman, Seleucid, 216pts
5 Chuck Hines, Ostrogoth, 206pts
6 Paul Georgian, Pyrrhic, 206pts
7 Dennis Shorthouse, Ancient Bedouin, 204pts
8 Richard Woolford, Patrician Roman, 204pts
9 Dan Hazelwood, Republican Roman, 200pts
10 Ethan Zorick, Patrician Roman, 195pts
11 Derek Hannan, Kushan, 194pts
12 Nicholas Swales, Republican Roman, 190pts
13 Phil Gardocki, Thracian, 187pts
14 Dan Bigelow, Three Kingdoms Korean, 185pts
15 Mark Cribbs, Late Imperial Roman, 149pts
16 Kornel Burnacz, Seleucid, 146pts
17 Jay Stone, Palmyran, 137pts
18 Spike Monahan, Armenian, 136pts
19 Brian Cantwell, Numidian, 133pts
20 Steve Roper, Gallic, 132pts
21 Jim Bisignani, German, 132pts
22 Al Kaplan, Alexandrian Macedonian, 131pts
23 Kevin Hatch, Triumvirate Roman, 127pts
24 Paul Bellerive, Later Achaemenid Persian, 117pts
25 David Boor, Three Kingdoms Chinese, 93pts
26 Jeff Herzog, Classical Indian, 78pts
27 Colin Whittaker, German, 73pts
28 John Shirey, Britto-Roman, 61pts
29 Dustin Brown, Camillan Roman, 19pts (1 game)
30 Nicolas Begue, Late Imperial Roman, 14pts (1 game)

[Hazelbark]

Historicon '23 15mm Open Results
Friday, July 21, 2023
200 points, 3 rounds, 25mm

1 Dan Hazelwood, Ghaznavid, 265pts
2 Joe DiCamillo, Komnenan Byzantine, 218pts
3 Ethan Zorick, French Ordonnance, 205pts
4 Kevin Hatch, Condottieri, 185pts
5 Chuck Hines, Tuareg, 184pts
6 Carl Stefanelli, Huns, 172pts
7 Spike Monahan, Sahelian Empire, 164pts
8 Brian Cantwell, Numidian, 162pts
9 Colin Whittaker, German, 159pts
10 Duncan Richards, Tuareg, 141pts
11 Steve Roper, French Ordonnance, 139pts
12 Bill McCampbell, Free Company, 133pts
13 Paul Bellerive, Tamil Indian, 124pts
14 Paul Georgian, Nikephorian Byzantine, 117pts
15 Dennis Shorthouse, Sahelian Empire, 113pts
16 Dustin Brown, Communal Italian, 75pts
17 John Shirey, Britto-Roman, 64pts
18 Art Hayes, Norman, 46pts (1 game)

[Hazelbark]

By the Numbers


15mm America Theme – 12 players
18 games
1 draw
Avg Army Size 28.5
Mike K. and Steve R. faced the opponents with the highest combined score.

15mm Classical-Roman Theme – 30 players
43 games
5 draws
Avg Army Size 24.4
Mark C. and Spike faced the opponents with the highest combined score.


25mm Classical-Roman Theme – 22 players
33 games
9 draws
Avg Army Size 22.9
Lou C. and Dan B faced the opponents with the highest combined score.


15mm Open Theme – 18 players
25 games
6 draws (4 in first round)
Avg Army Size 24.3
Carl S. and John S faced the opponents with the highest combined score.

119 total games
47 different players
8 played in three events. Clearly, we need to offer more games to serve this crowd.
18 played in one event.
21 played in two events.
5 Nations known to be represented.

The top 5 players who played more than one event, and faced (averaged) highest scoring opponents at this convention.
John S
Dan B
Spike M
Nick S
Steve R

[Black Prince]

Hi Dan could you please share your Ghaznavid list from Historicon? Thanks Keith

[Hazelbark]

+3
2 MI Impact elite
2 EL
1 LH bow
3 HC bow
2 LI Jav

+0 included
1 EL (General included)
2 MI impetuous
2 LI Bow

+2
1 HC Bow elite
2 HC Bow
2 MC impact
1 LH Bow
1 LH Impact


to be fair the core of the list is based on Ethan’s design. IIRC modified that by losing nearly all the elites (which I did not want to do) and bringing in the impact MC and LC.
I had to be aggressive about not getting the LI killed. What I don’t like this is a lot about making the enemy focus on the two elephant blocks which threaten different points. Thereby hoping to create gaps for others to wiggle into.

[Black Prince]

Thank you Dan.

I add armour to my elephants, don't find the elephants vulnerable in melee without armour?

[Hazelbark]

Basically if you do that you have to give up some serious power in this list.

Dropping down to 2 EL then you can build out elsewhere.

I should probably run some to see what i think, but my default is the ordinary give me what i need.

Probably worth thinking for the included general.

[Black Prince]

My current working list is, you just don't want to be the centre command with the 2 elephants its casualty rate is always high but it enables the Ghulams to win the day.

+3
2 Ghulams Heavy cavalry bow Elite
1 Arabs and Bedouins Light cavalry impact ----------
1 War Elephant Elephant armour ----------
2 Indian Warriors Medium swordsmen impetuous ----------
2 Indian and Afghan Archers Light infantry bow ----------
1 Turks and Nomads Light cavalry bow --------

+0
2 War Elephant Elephant armour ----------
2 Dailami Infantry Medium swordsmen impact support Elite
2 Indian Skirmishers Light infantry javelin ----------
2 Ghaznavid Warriors Heavy spearmen support ----------

-6 Ordinary, included and unreliable
2 Turks and Nomads Light cavalry bow ----------
1 Ghulams with General Heavy cavalry bow Elite
1 Ghulams Heavy cavalry bow Elite
1 Arabs and Bedouins Light cavalry impact ----------

[ethan]

[Hazelbark]

Continuing this discussion here
http://artdelaguerre.fr/adlg/v3/forum/viewtopic.php?p=117515#117515