Art De La Guerre

[ecnomus]

Hi, I am a spanish player. Several players have questions to clarify about the topic Sliding along enemy edge.

I believe our traduction is not so good about this theme. In page 41 "Sliding along enemy edge" bullet 1 our spanish rule is quite confuse.

We need to know if a unit B can do a manoeuvre movement along the side of an enemy 1 when this enemy is in combat to his front (with other unit A) . And if this movement can be done to end it in a position of simple support (side by side) against this enemy unit 1.

We must suppose for clarification that the unit B that makes the move is not already in simple support position at the beginning of its move, but far away from this previous combat. Also, there not ZOCs present in this example.

The main question is to know if the unit B that move to a simple support position must stop at corner to corner contact with the enemy 1 already in combat (in order to provide support) or if unit B can continue its manoeuvre to a further position side to side against 1 for simple support (and therefore ready for a flanc attack next turn). In this second case unit B is doing a move sliding along the enemy edge...

Excuse for my english and thanks in advance.
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Ecnomus

[Zoltan]

Well I can tell you my experience of this when I played El Kreator in a friendly game in Lyon last August.

My unit charged his unit and conformed - they were both now in frontal contact.

I had a second unit that I wanted to move past the enemy’s front edge so that it would be able to turn onto the enemy’s flank in my next move, but still be in simple support this move.

Hervé made the point that my second unit would stop as soon as it made corner to corner contact with the enemy unit (already in melee), and it could NOT slide along the enemy’s side edge.

In order to position my second unit behind the enemy’s front edge AND in side edge to side edge contact, I had to advance my second unit so that it did not touch the enemy unit until it was past the enemy’s front edge. Then my second unit could slide sideways to make side to side contact and provide simple support in the melee.

[lionelrus]

[ecnomus]

[lionelrus]

[Zoltan]

[Neep]

My understanding is that it is always two actions. The first action to put the enemy in melee, and the second to slide past the edge. You cannot do this in one action. For excample, make a group charge, put the enemy in melee with one unit, and slide the adjacent unit forward. It must stop at the front corner.
And starting in contact implies there was so past action that put you there, so now you can slide again (but muust leave contact)

There is an older post with similar quesitons that could use another look. I'll try to dig it up.

[ecnomus]

Thank you very much.

It is clear for me now.
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[lionelrus]