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Black Prince
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Inscrit le: 17 Oct 2016 Messages: 290
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Posté le: Dim Oct 07, 2018 6:57 am Sujet du message: Does conforming count as movement |
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When a base conforms automatically after being hit in the flank by a pursuit in the previous turn does that count as movement so the base cannot attempt to rally? |
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Dickstick
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Inscrit le: 17 Juil 2016 Messages: 680
Localisation: West Bromwich
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Posté le: Dim Oct 07, 2018 8:57 am Sujet du message: |
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The unit does not conform after being contacted in the flank on the previous turn.
In conforms after mêlée in the mêlée turn .
Ie the previous turn.
See p54
So in the units turn it can rally _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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Black Prince
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Posté le: Dim Oct 07, 2018 10:06 am Sujet du message: |
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The contact happened as the result of a pursuit the way the sequence of play reads on p26 rout and pursuit happens after the melee phase. As base to base conformation happens at the end of the melee phase not the end of turn. If I read the sequence of play correctly the base contacted in the flank can only conform its turn hence my question about does conformation count as movement. |
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Dickstick
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Localisation: West Bromwich
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Posté le: Dim Oct 07, 2018 10:32 am Sujet du message: |
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Sorry didn't see the word pursuit.
You have two choices in your movement.
Conform for free or pay to rally and fight with a flank attack.
I'd do the first. _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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Ramses II
Magister Militum
Inscrit le: 17 Juil 2015 Messages: 1160
Localisation: London
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Posté le: Dim Oct 07, 2018 3:03 pm Sujet du message: |
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Hmm. I don’t have the rules to hand right now, but I don’t think Conformation counts as a ‘move’ as such, so I think you can both conform and attempt a Rally.Â
But a good question worth checking with the TB |
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daveallen
Tribun
Inscrit le: 28 Jan 2016 Messages: 742
Localisation: Rugby & CLWC
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Posté le: Mer Oct 24, 2018 2:11 am Sujet du message: |
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Black Prince a écrit: | The contact happened as the result of a pursuit the way the sequence of play reads on p26 rout and pursuit happens after the melee phase. As base to base conformation happens at the end of the melee phase not the end of turn. If I read the sequence of play correctly the base contacted in the flank can only conform its turn hence my question about does conformation count as movement. |
This is covered by the FAQ p.16 Timing of Conformation 3rd b.p:
Citation: | During a pursuit, if the pursuer contacts a new enemy. If that new unit is not automatically destroyed it must conform with the front of the pursuer. |
So the unit can attempt a rally during its turn. ie the following turn. _________________ Putting the ink into incompetence |
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Zoltan
Centurion
Inscrit le: 18 Jan 2015 Messages: 443
Localisation: Wellington, New Zealand
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Posté le: Mer Oct 24, 2018 9:07 am Sujet du message: |
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So just to be clear:
It’s my turn
1. In my move I rout your unit which is removed. I then elect to pursue 1 MU into the flank of your second unit (your first unit had previously made a quarter turn out of line towards my unit, to protect the line’s flank).
2. Because your second unit was so close to it’s routed friend, it became disordered.
3. As soon as I contact your second unit in the flank it makes a free, compulsory quarter turn to conform with my pursuer.
It’s your turn
4. Your disordered unit can pay 1 CP and attempt to rally (or is it 2 CP because we are in combat)?
5. We fight a melee with base factors only i.e. as this is not a charge we do not count impact etc. |
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Ramses II
Magister Militum
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Localisation: London
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Posté le: Mer Oct 24, 2018 10:18 am Sujet du message: |
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Yup Zoltan, that sums it up nicely.Â
And it would be 2CP to rally since by definition the units are in melee (p50) as soon as contact is made. |
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Black Prince
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Posté le: Mer Oct 24, 2018 8:37 pm Sujet du message: |
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Thank for clearing that up. |
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lionelrus
Magister Militum
Inscrit le: 21 Mar 2009 Messages: 4709
Localisation: paris
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Posté le: Jeu Oct 25, 2018 10:31 am Sujet du message: |
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However, it's a good idea to include this in the following fAQ. _________________ "Quand on a pas de technique, faut y aller à la zob"
Perceval à Yvain et Gauvain. |
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madaxeman
Magister Militum
Inscrit le: 01 Nov 2014 Messages: 1468
Localisation: Londres Centraal.
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Posté le: Jeu Oct 25, 2018 10:49 am Sujet du message: |
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lionelrus a écrit: | However, it's a good idea to include this in the following fAQ. |
suggestion:
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This is covered by the FAQ p.16 Timing of Conformation 3rd b.p:
Citation: | During a pursuit, if the pursuer contacts a new enemy. If that new unit is not automatically destroyed it must conform with the front of the pursuer immediately it is contacted (ie this conforming takes place in the pursuit phase). |
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