Art De La Guerre

[kevinj]

There are two possible penalties that can apply here. The penalty for shooting from terrain is, as you say, clearly covered by Page 63. Where we're unsure is whether the target also gains the benefit of cover due to the line of sight needing to cross terrain?

So, for example, if I have a unit of LMI bowmen standing with their front edge along the edge of a plantation shooting at a unit in the open, does their target gain the benefit of cover as well as the shooter taking the penalty for shooting from cover?

[Ramses II]

Dickstick answered this earlier in the thread. P48 gives two penalties for shooting from cover and for the target being in cover.

So some LMI bowmen lining the front edge of a plantation shooting at a target behind fortifications would suffer two penalties to their shooting. They would be able to lose one of the penalties if they moved partially or completely out of the plantation where they would lose the benefits of being in cover / rough terrain.

If the Bowmen on the edge of the plantation are firing at a target in the open, the shooting only suffers from one penalty for shooting from cover (the target is in the open). Equally if both units were in the open but shooting across the corner of terrain that provides cover, there would only one penalty for the target being behind cover.

As Dave said, ether you are firing from cover and entirely in terrain, or you are outside the terrain and lose the benefits in melee. P57 Terrain modifiers 1st para is very clear that where two units are fighting on the edge of terrain, both units are considered to be in that terrain - and the same logic applies to where the unit is with respect to firing.

[Ramses II]

Dickstick answered this earlier in the thread. P48 gives two penalties for shooting from cover and for the target being in cover.

So some LMI bowmen lining the front edge of a plantation shooting at a target behind fortifications would suffer two penalties to their shooting. They would be able to lose one of the penalties if they moved partially or completely out of the plantation where they would lose the benefits of being in cover / rough terrain.

If the Bowmen on the edge of the plantation are firing at a target in the open, the shooting only suffers from one penalty for shooting from cover (the target is in the open). Equally if both units were in the open shooting across the corner of terrain that provides cover, there would only one penalty for the target being behind cover.

As Dave said, ether you are firing from cover and entirely in terrain, or you are outside the terrain and lose the benefits in melee. P57 Terrain modifiers 1st para is very clear that where two units are fighting on the edge of terrain, both units are considered to be in that terrain - and the same logic applies to where the unit is with respect to firing.

[daveallen]