Art De La Guerre

Ballista · Légionaire Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2018 Messages: 117

Two Questions gentlemen:

1. On P22 it describes Spontaneous Charges. The situation that came up in a game was:

There is a unit facing the rear of a enemy unit and is within 1UD of this enemy unit so is eligible for a spontaneous charge - Yes.

The question is: Is this unit able to slide/wheel ? or more precisely in a spontaneous charge are you able to slide/wheel (complying with ZOC requirememnts of enemy units)

2. Are u allowed to conform off table ??

fdunadan · Tribun Inscrit le: 12 Juin 2009 Messages: 978

1) Well, yes and no
spontaneous charge is authorized if an ennemy unit is at 1UD or less so most of the time, you can't slide (1 UD straight ahead mandatory to slide) and Wheeling will not help since you've got to conform to the ennemy after contact (hence "sliding" to conform)

nothing prohibit Wheel or slide in the rules apparently, but it will be of no use most of the time.

2) NO, No, God, no!!!!! if you leave the table, you die horribly! you fall off the Borders Of The World!
the only way a unit can be off table, is if it evade. The pursuer must stop at the border, even if impetuous.
so effevtively, if your unit has it's rear just at the limit of the table, it can't be attacked from flank or rear (if it's base size is less than 1 UD deep, of course)
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Brave Coeur · Post� le: Mer Juil 25, 2018 7:07 am Sujet du message:

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1534

bodoli · Post� le: Mer Ao� 22, 2018 5:17 pm Sujet du message:

Another question on this subject:

Last weekend we had a situation like cavalry "H" on p42.
How does cavalry "H" charge cavalry "X3"?
1. In a straight way like the arrow?
2. With a quarter-turn to the right?

In case of 1. will cavalry "H" get a -1 for uncontrolled charge if the distance between its flank an the front of cavalry "X3" is less than 1 UD?
In case of 2. will cavalry "H" become disordered?

Ramses II · Post� le: Mer Ao� 22, 2018 5:41 pm Sujet du message:

Since X3 is drawn as being in line with the front edge of H, in order to charge H will perform a 1/4 turn right and then move into contact. Doing this in other circumstances where X3 is not aligned, H may make an optional wheel after the turn in order to contact the enemy.

If H was Impetuous, it would be required to charge X3 (since that is the closest enemy unit) and would have to use Command Points (CP) to do so. If CP are used, the charge is not uncontrolled. However if no CP are used to initiate the charge, then H would charge anyway and be considered Uncontrolled as a result.

H is not "disordered" unless it has received a cohesion loss (has a marker), from enemy shooting or a previous melee. A unit with disorder markers may be rallied by spending CP to throw dice for a rally attempt.

bodoli · Post� le: Mer Ao� 22, 2018 7:11 pm Sujet du message:

Ramses II · Post� le: Mer Ao� 22, 2018 10:08 pm Sujet du message:

Measure distances in the usual way. many people use measuring sticks and spare bases rather than rules because they are easier to use inn the confined spaces between figures and their bases.

"Charge range" is the distance the unit can move in any direction, taking into account the deductions for wheels and turns (not slides). So for example using the diagram in the book, X would use 1UD to turn to face X3, and then add the actual distance measured from the front edge after the turn.
Note all wheels are measured from the outside corners of the base or group.