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Baldie
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Inscrit le: 25 Juin 2017 Messages: 20
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Posté le: Ven Juin 22, 2018 6:46 am Sujet du message: javelin |
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Hi All
We have always played that only javelin men get the javelin rule, i have read a coulple of reports that seemed to indicate anyone with a javelin got the rule.
Which is correct please, same for LI XBow whilst i am on it.
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Ramses II
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Posté le: Ven Juin 22, 2018 9:58 am Sujet du message: |
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Anyone armed specifically armed with a javelin gets the +1 in the 1st round of melee. This is given for troops throwing their weapons as melee is joined.Â
You will also find a curious weapon called an atlatl, a thin throwing spear used by the indigenous South American races. This is a long range weapon launched by a throwing stick, so it does not get the last minute melee bonus.Â
If you check the green box on p48 that describes bow and crossbow shooting, you will find that the bonuses do not apply to light troops armed with them. |
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Baldie
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Posté le: Ven Juin 22, 2018 11:05 am Sujet du message: |
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Ta
So light inf Javelin and Light horse get Javelin
LI XB and LH XB dont get X bow
Loving the game and starting to get the grip on rules, still get slaughterdd but at least drag it out a bit now. |
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Hazelbark
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Posté le: Ven Juin 22, 2018 4:07 pm Sujet du message: |
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Baldie a écrit: | Ta
So light inf Javelin and Light horse get Javelin
LI XB and LH XB dont get X bow
Loving the game and starting to get the grip on rules, still get slaughterdd but at least drag it out a bit now. |
LI and LH with Javelin count as having it for melee and shooting.
No LI and LH with Crossbow do indeed count as shooting with crossbow.
Generally if you assume the obvious common sense answer and you will be right. |
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madaxeman
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Posté le: Ven Juin 22, 2018 5:35 pm Sujet du message: |
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Hazelbark a écrit: | Baldie a écrit: | Ta
So light inf Javelin and Light horse get Javelin
LI XB and LH XB dont get X bow
Loving the game and starting to get the grip on rules, still get slaughterdd but at least drag it out a bit now. |
LI and LH with Javelin count as having it for melee and shooting.
No LI and LH with Crossbow do indeed count as shooting with crossbow.
Generally if you assume the obvious common sense answer and you will be right. |
LI and LH shoot with the same factor as all other LI/LH (factor of -1), but count all of their targets as having protection of 1 (unless elephants or wagons)Â _________________ www.madaxeman.com |
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Baldie
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Posté le: Ven Juin 22, 2018 7:14 pm Sujet du message: |
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Great, thanks for info |
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warlordNZ1
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Posté le: Lun Juil 02, 2018 12:27 am Sujet du message: |
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Javelin Bonus is cancelled if the opponent has either 'impact' or 'impetuous' ability. page 18
Light Infantry with Javelin in ROUGH going is charged by Heavy Swordsmen 'impact' and therefore the Heavy Swordsmen take a -1 Terrain modifier. page 57
Does the Heavy Swordsman lose the 'impact' +1 allowing the Light Infantry to gain the +1 for Javelin ?
What happens if the Heavy Swordsmen charge the Javelin armed Light Infantry in DIFFICULT terrain where it takes a -2 Terrain modifier ?
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fdunadan
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Posté le: Lun Juil 02, 2018 6:02 am Sujet du message: |
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Infantry do not lose their impact in disadvantaging terrain, so:
in rough: HI (+1 base +1 impact -1 terrain = +1) vs LI (+0)
in difficult HI (+1 base +1 impact -2 terrain = +0) vs LI (+0)
If the HI was not impact this will have been +0/+1 and -1/+1 respectively so a differential of 2 in favor of the Li _________________ Audentes fortuna iuvat. |
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warlordNZ1
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fdunadan a écrit: | Infantry do not lose their impact in disadvantaging terrain, so:
in rough: HI (+1 base +1 impact -1 terrain = +1) vs LI (+0)
in difficult HI (+1 base +1 impact -2 terrain = +0) vs LI (+0)
If the HI was not impact this will have been +0/+1 and -1/+1 respectively so a differential of 2 in favor of the Li |
Thank you, makes sense when presented that way. |
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