Art De La Guerre

daveallen · Post� le: Mer Avr 25, 2018 4:11 pm Sujet du message:

I think we're in agreement here Lionel. Mostly Cool

I'm still not sure of the justification for splitting a mixed group of Cv and Cv Impetuous during a charge. Just saying that's how it's done in France won't necessarily convince people outside France. Shocked

Dave
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lionelrus · Post� le: Mer Avr 25, 2018 4:48 pm Sujet du message:

But in France, we benefit from many year of Holly Words of EL KREATOR, and it's better speaking with god rather than his own saints!
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madaxeman · Post� le: Mer Avr 25, 2018 7:26 pm Sujet du message:

daveallen · Post� le: Mer Avr 25, 2018 9:42 pm Sujet du message:

You're too kind Tim Twisted Evil

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Mike Bennett · Post� le: Mer Avr 25, 2018 10:16 pm Sujet du message:

Hi Lionel

So please can I re-ask my original question. Can a charging elephant grouped between 2 pike move 1ud if the group rolls slow, moving as part of the group, or must it move 2ud, splitting from the pikes, or does it indeed roll sepperrate dice due to different spend

I think you said one adjustment roll, one group speed 2ud, so in this case all 3 move 2-1ud = 1ud if the single group rolls down

daveallen · Post� le: Jeu Avr 26, 2018 7:22 am Sujet du message:

That's what he said and it seems reasonable.

There will be circumstances where mounted chargers making a variable move simply won't be able to move 2UD especially if it involves turning unmanoeuvrable units such as elephants, impetuous knights and cataphracts.

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lionelrus · Post� le: Jeu Avr 26, 2018 5:20 pm Sujet du message:

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daveallen · Post� le: Lun Avr 30, 2018 9:50 pm Sujet du message:

Where are you getting this from in the rules?

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Black Prince · Prétorien Inscrit le: 17 Oct 2016 Messages: 290

page 40 7- charge movement for the adjusted movement distance it refers back to point 5 (pg39)- Adjusted movement distance it clearly states that a group that has units that have different movement distances are rolled as separate sub groups.

daveallen · Post� le: Mar Mai 01, 2018 7:17 am Sujet du message:

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It could be clearer in the rules though if that is the official ruling no problems. Though I do not understand the logic or the justification for allow evaders to roll as sub groups and charges to roll once.

daveallen · Post� le: Mar Mai 01, 2018 10:05 am Sujet du message:

It could be clearer, true.

The justification seems to be that the active player has made a decision to move his units as a group and so dices for them as such. Whereas the reactive player gets no choice whether he moves them as one group or several.

Dave
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