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daveallen
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MessagePosté le: Mer Sep 13, 2017 8:34 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Thanks, apology accepted.

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MessagePosté le: Ven Sep 15, 2017 9:13 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
plefebvre a écrit:
This is the official answer to the question raised by the second example of the third post.

This move is not legal. The rational is : as it moves to contact Blue Y, Red B has part of its front which enters and then exits the Blue Z's ZOC.

Obviously, by considering the rule about movements in ZOC, some definition are to be clarified such as : to align, to exit the ZOC. Also the text could be more clearly presented.

The problem will be solved by the next updated FAQ which is almost completed and will be soon released.

The Technical Board director


This doesnt clear things up to me 100%.
What if blue Z has it's left front corner touching Y rear right corner .In that case unit B won't EXIT unit Z zoc!Is it legal then or not?
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MessagePosté le: Sam Sep 16, 2017 8:49 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
gregfilip a écrit:
plefebvre a écrit:
This is the official answer to the question raised by the second example of the third post.

This move is not legal. The rational is : as it moves to contact Blue Y, Red B has part of its front which enters and then exits the Blue Z's ZOC.

Obviously, by considering the rule about movements in ZOC, some definition are to be clarified such as : to align, to exit the ZOC. Also the text could be more clearly presented.

The problem will be solved by the next updated FAQ which is almost completed and will be soon released.

The Technical Board director


This doesnt clear things up to me 100%.
What if blue Z has it's left front corner touching Y rear right corner .In that case unit B won't EXIT unit Z zoc!Is it legal then or not?
thnx
GREG


That is presumably why this bit is included in the original answer...

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Obviously, by considering the rule about movements in ZOC, some definition are to be clarified such as : to align, to exit the ZOC. Also the text could be more clearly presented.

The problem will be solved by the next updated FAQ which is almost completed and will be soon released.

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MessagePosté le: Lun Oct 30, 2017 12:21 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
And the long awaited FAQ that answers this is now online here
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MessagePosté le: Lun Oct 30, 2017 6:51 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Thanks, Ramses.......there are some very useful examples in the new FAQ.
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Nov 09, 2017 11:17 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
I realise that the question has been asked and answered, and this is only for my own knowledge..

But taking the second diagram and assuming that B and Z are already aligned and B moves straight ahead towards Z, the unit B hits the flank of the unit Y with a corner.

What happens? I would assume that B could contact Y but wouldn't be able to conform to count as a proper flank attack in the ZOC of Z, so would you still be able to count B as support i.e. +1 but not a proper flank attack, so no loss of abilities for Y?

Cheers Glen.
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MessagePosté le: Sam Nov 11, 2017 12:05 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
No. The new FAQ specifically prohibits a unit in the ZoC of one enemy unit from contacting the flank of another enemy unit (bottom of p4).
This effectively becomes an illegal contact, so the unit must stop before it contacts that unit in the flank.
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