Art De La Guerre

[A4]

An attacker, not a strategist, has chosen only two pieces of terrain. That leaves him with two chances to adjust the terrain.

Does he:

A.

1. Choose a piece of terrain.

2. Roll a dice for that piece of terrain.

3. Choose another piece of terrain.

4. Roll a dice for that piece of terrain.

Or

B.

1. Choose both pieces of terrain.

2. Roll a dice for each in turn.


In my experience most players follow option B, but it is not altogether clear that they have to. I know that the difference looks small - but A can see how things rolled for his first piece before choosing his second. Even though, as a non-Strategist, he cannot return to the same piece again, the result of the first roll might influence his pick for the second piece.

Alan

[AlanCutner]

In the Scottish League we played method A

[babyshark]

In the US we have always followed method A as well.

Marc

[Saint-Genies]

Same thing in France.

[Hazelbark]

A is rather clear I think when reading the full terrain adjustment rules of page 68-69.

Also the strategist would be very weak in this area if you had to decide before you rolled if you would re-roll.

[belinconnux]

The defender choose his terrains then the attacker choose his terrains.
The defender place his terrain then the attacker do the same.
The attacker try to control terrain then the defender do the same.
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[A4]

[footslogger]

Hmmm. I don't see why one would say "B" is required. The text says, "A player selects an element and rolls a dice:...." Sounds like "A."

[Ramses II]

The key point here is that the player needs to move one piece of terrain to free up the location where he intends to move the second piece (or other similar reasons). Failure to move the first piece defeats this plan, forcing the player to adopt an alternative strategy.

The above considerations are why I prefer option A, to choose and then roll for each piece of terrain in turn.

I might add that if the player has a Strategist, I see no reason why he should not use the reroll on the first terrain piece before attempting to move the second. It is quite possible that this was the author's intention, but was 'lost in translation'.

The point is that Terrain plays such an important part of this game that this simple question can have significant importance.




, allowing the Strategist the option of re-rolling the first roll

[belinconnux]

There is probably some mistake with translation ...
It'i clear that defender choose all terrains he want (with rules limits) THEN attacker does the same.
Defender roll dice for each of his terrains THEN attacker does the same.
Attacker try to control some terrains (with rules limits) THEN Defender does the same.
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[madaxeman]

It seems that it's A everywhere in the world where these rules are played.

So, I think it's A
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[JohnTheBoring]

Seems to me if the rules do not explicitly say which when there is an option then a player can do whichever he chooses.

So if they allow A it is A... unless a player wants to do B instead for some reason.

[A4]

[belinconnux]

If I understand "choose a piece of terrain" as "choose a piece of terrain in the pool of 2-4 I selected before" so I'm agree with you.
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