Art De La Guerre

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1538

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Melee modifiers Attacked on the flank or the rear.

This explains how you fight flank charges.

p 59 multiple opponents
If you are already in melee with an enemy front edge and you are charged in the flank or rear. You immediately lose a cohesion point.

So for clarity:
If I have an UN-engaged unit charged in the flank. It does NOT drop a cohesion level, correct?
It does fight at a zero, etc.

Soranon · Post� le: Jeu Nov 13, 2014 11:52 pm Sujet du message:

You're right.

Don't forget that the unit charged in flank only fight at 0 if the charging unit isn't a light troop

ethan · Signifer Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 347

So, if I am fighting a line of enemy...I kill one unit and advance then turn on the flank of someone already fighting to their front they drop a cohesion level?

Soranon · Post� le: Ven Nov 14, 2014 2:03 am Sujet du message:

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1538

Right it is in a succeeding turn.

So once you break through one point it is very likely you will start to roll up the line.

ethan · Signifer Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 347

Thanks, that clears it up.

Rosbif · Post� le: Ven Nov 14, 2014 6:33 am Sujet du message:

vtsaogames · Post� le: Sam Nov 15, 2014 8:30 pm Sujet du message:

Can you wheel into flank attacks?

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Assume all units are heavy and unit A is an enemy unit. It is your turn. Can unit Y pivot on its left flank and count as a flank attack? Or must it advance, quarter turn to the left and wait for the next turn to strike the flank?

This pivot is standard usage in DBA. I am not sure if it is cricket in these rules.

Rosbif · Post� le: Sam Nov 15, 2014 8:35 pm Sujet du message:

Pivots up to 90° are fine, BUT to charge an enemy in the flank at least part of the charging unit's base must be behind the line extending the enemy's front AND none of its base can be directly ahead of the enemy. Therefore in your example you cannot charge the enemy's flank this turn. As you say, the best is to advance a little this turn and then pivot next turn (in which case you cause one loss on the enemy before the combat due to the Multiple Combat rule). If the loss doesn't kill the enemy, it will fight in the melee at -1 (its base factor is reduced to zero because a non-light unit has attacked its flank, less one for being disordered).

vtsaogames · Post� le: Sam Nov 15, 2014 8:39 pm Sujet du message:

Rosbif · Post� le: Sam Nov 15, 2014 8:45 pm Sujet du message:

Precisely.

vtsaogames · Post� le: Sam Nov 15, 2014 8:46 pm Sujet du message:

Merci beaucoup.

Rosbif · Post� le: Sam Nov 15, 2014 8:54 pm Sujet du message:

De rien!

AlanCutner · Post� le: Dim Nov 16, 2014 6:41 pm Sujet du message:

Played our first game today and had a similar but different situation. Cavalry withdrew from combat to front of enemy foot, and another cavalry unit in starting in side edge contact with the same foot unit did a quarter turn to contact its flank. Did this count as a flank charge?

Rosbif · Post� le: Dim Nov 16, 2014 7:14 pm Sujet du message:

If the first cavalry unit withdrew before the second one turned, then yes it is a charge because edge contact is not considered as being in melee. However if the second cavalry unit turned before the first one withdrew then the multiple combat rule would apply and the melee would be fought as a continuation of the previous combat.