Art De La Guerre

chris6 · Vétéran Inscrit le: 02 D�c 2013 Messages: 198

Site 59, 2nd Paragraph....It is not necessary for the new enemy to make a charge. It can engage the melee with a simple move...

Does this mean that the rules for making a flank contact Site 51 do not count? Can i just move into the flank contact without having a least part of the front of my bg in the flank of the opponent?

Wagmestre · Post� le: Dim Oct 19, 2014 4:35 pm Sujet du message:

The rule page 51 for a flank contact must always be observed.

The rule page 59 means that the new ennemy is not supposed to charge to inflict 1 loss.

For example, if it is still on the flank of the target (flank to flank, for example), a 1/4 movement is enough.

2nd example : the target had a friendly unit on the flank (they formed a line) and this one has been destroyed, and the second ennemy unit had the front on the destroyed unit's back. So, the ennemy can do a simple conformation (in sliding) to the back of the next target to inflict 1 point loss.

Wagmestre · Post� le: Dim Oct 19, 2014 4:45 pm Sujet du message:

At the beginning of the turn, if the second ennemy unit is not behind the front line of the target, it must in a first movement go flank to flank if the target, crossing the front line.

The 1/4 mouvement will be allowed at the same player's next turn (it's long...)

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GW · Javelinier Inscrit le: 09 Oct 2015 Messages: 11

I think the weakness in what is said on this matter is found on page 36 second bullet. Surely this is saying that a unit in corner to corner only contact can conform by wheeling into the flank of the enemy unit. If not what is it referring to?

belinconnux · Post� le: Ven Nov 06, 2015 1:55 pm Sujet du message:

I don't know but wagmestre is true. You can't wheeling in the flanc of your opponent when you are just in contact front corner to front corner.
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Ramses II · Post� le: Ven Nov 06, 2015 3:49 pm Sujet du message:

If you check p53, the third diag on conforming shows this exact situation of two units in corner to corner contact, where one or the other slides so that they are fighting frontally.

The wording on p59 is merely saying that you do not have to 'charge' to make this contact. However as Belinconnux says, for one of your units to engage an enemy unit on its flank in this fashion (ie with multiple units), your unit must start its movement in the flank area.

GW · Javelinier Inscrit le: 09 Oct 2015 Messages: 11

I think you must mean p51 in the English version as there is no 3rd diagram on page 53.

GW · Javelinier Inscrit le: 09 Oct 2015 Messages: 11

Actually I just found the diagram you must mean. It is on p55. This makes the situation much clearer. Merci.