Art De La Guerre
Bienvenue sur le forum de discussion de la règle de jeu l'Art De La Guerre
 
FAQFAQ RechercherRechercher Liste des MembresListe des Membres Groupes d'utilisateursGroupes d'utilisateurs S'enregistrerS'enregistrer
ProfilProfil Se connecter pour vérifier ses messages privésSe connecter pour vérifier ses messages privés ConnexionConnexion
#79 Classical Indian - post 320AD Chariots?
Page 1 sur 1
Poster un nouveau sujet   Répondre au sujet
 Art De La Guerre Index du Forum > Army lists
Auteur Message
Mark G Fry
Légat


Inscrit le: 15 Juin 2017
Messages: 586
Localisation: Bristol, UK
MessagePosté le: Lun Jan 27, 2025 10:04 pm    Sujet du message: #79 Classical Indian - post 320AD Chariots? Répondre en citant
There appears to be some confusion around the chariots in this list.
The list clearly states that the Guptas (from 320 to 550AD) replace all nobles* (which are Light chariots bow or Heavy Chariots impetuous) with Heavy Cavalry Impact. That is clear enough.
However, there are other Indian states, other than Guptas, that are active on the Indian sub-continent between 320 & 550AD.
Are these non-Gupta Indian armies able to use the chariot nobles?
I've come across various different opinions on this.
Thanks
Mark
_________________
'He could have lived a risk-free, moneyed life, but he preferred to whittle away his fortune on warfare.' Xenophon, The Anabasis
Revenir en haut de page
Voir le profil de l'utilisateur Envoyer un message privé
Hazelbark
Magister Militum


Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014
Messages: 1671
MessagePosté le: Mar Jan 28, 2025 12:12 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
The list does not say that all Classical Indian 320-550 must be Gupta.
It does state the Mauryas end in 180 BC.
Therefore
425 AD you could have a generic classical Indian
+2 command
No Gupta options
No Rathamasuala
No Sacred Camp

Perhaps it should be required to be Gupta, but it appears it is not a requirement.
Revenir en haut de page
Voir le profil de l'utilisateur Envoyer un message privé
Mark G Fry
Légat


Inscrit le: 15 Juin 2017
Messages: 586
Localisation: Bristol, UK
MessagePosté le: Mar Jan 28, 2025 9:59 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Hazelbark a écrit:
The list does not say that all Classical Indian 320-550 must be Gupta.
It does state the Mauryas end in 180 BC.
Therefore
425 AD you could have a generic classical Indian
+2 command
No Gupta options
No Rathamasuala
No Sacred Camp

Perhaps it should be required to be Gupta, but it appears it is not a requirement.


Thanks Dan .... that was my reading of it.

Historically chariots were greatly on the decline post Mauryas anyway, and whilst they appear in carvings of historical battles-scenes up to c.600CE there is always the issue around whether they are just being ridden by commanders and nobles, to the battlefield where they then transfer to horses, or just in parades. Or whether they are just a 'heroic' throw-back to a more glorious era or an attempt to depict the nobles as if they were likend to Hindu god figures.

Cheers
Mark
_________________
'He could have lived a risk-free, moneyed life, but he preferred to whittle away his fortune on warfare.' Xenophon, The Anabasis
Revenir en haut de page
Voir le profil de l'utilisateur Envoyer un message privé
  
 Art De La Guerre Index du Forum > Army lists
Page 1 sur 1
Poster un nouveau sujet   Répondre au sujet Toutes les heures sont au format GMT

 
Sauter vers:  
Vous ne pouvez pas poster de nouveaux sujets dans ce forum
Vous ne pouvez pas répondre aux sujets dans ce forum
Vous ne pouvez pas éditer vos messages dans ce forum
Vous ne pouvez pas supprimer vos messages dans ce forum
Vous ne pouvez pas voter dans les sondages de ce forum