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daveallen
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Posté le: Mar Déc 04, 2018 7:36 am Sujet du message: Double Flank Contact |
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This from the Scottish Open:
CmL
C is Cavalry
m is Medium Infantry
L is Light Infantry
C charged m in the flank, L then moved into front edge contact with m's other flank.
Does m lose a cohesion point?
The rule is:
Citation: | P59 Multiple Opponents para 3:
A unit also loses a cohesion point if it is contacted during the same phase on two different sides by two different enemy units. At least one of the enemy units must be non-light troops contacting the flank or rear and all must conform properly. |
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Dickstick
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Posté le: Mar Déc 04, 2018 11:46 am Sujet du message: |
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Interesting.
Must be a rare occurrence as I don't recall seeing the situation actually happen before. _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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daveallen
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Posté le: Mar Déc 04, 2018 12:39 pm Sujet du message: |
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Not so rare if there's a rule specifically and unequivocally dealing with the situation.
What I'm checking is if it's another of those tricky translation glitches.
If you see what I mean
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Dickstick
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Posté le: Mar Déc 04, 2018 12:46 pm Sujet du message: |
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Agreed.
Now it's spotted it will happen more often.
So I agree. Is it how the french wanted it? _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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Ramses II
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Posté le: Mar Déc 04, 2018 3:11 pm Sujet du message: |
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Ok, I'll bite;
It seems clear to me that "m" loses a cohesion hit. What is the issue?
The key here is that one unit attacking the flank is not light. The same would be true where two LC were engaged in melee, and a third heavier unit moved into flank contact. I will agree it is unusual, though not rare, hence the wording, as Dave pointed out. |
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Korik
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Posté le: Sam Déc 08, 2018 6:56 pm Sujet du message: |
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On a related point, can m choose which enemy unit to take as it's primary melee opponent, given that neither made a frontal charge? _________________ Korik |
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Dickstick
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Posté le: Sam Déc 08, 2018 10:43 pm Sujet du message: |
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This is covered on p50.
Main unit
Last sentence.
Ie first contacting if none to front. _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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barnstormer
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Posté le: Dim Déc 09, 2018 7:44 pm Sujet du message: |
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um, I presume that the contacted unit is in rough or difficult terrain for the LI to able to contact it |
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fdunadan
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Posté le: Dim Déc 09, 2018 10:25 pm Sujet du message: |
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LI can contact heavier ennemy if this ennemy is already contacted by another troop. The LI does count as flank attack for canceling the bonus, but not for the loss of cohesion, nor the 0 basic combat factor. _________________ Audentes fortuna iuvat. |
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Dickstick
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Posté le: Dim Déc 09, 2018 11:14 pm Sujet du message: |
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Yes and no
As you may not be writing about the same situation /question _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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daveallen
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Posté le: Lun Déc 17, 2018 6:04 pm Sujet du message: |
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fdunadan a écrit: | LI can contact heavier ennemy if this ennemy is already contacted by another troop. The LI does count as flank attack for canceling the bonus, but not for the loss of cohesion, nor the 0 basic combat factor. |
This is true.
However, we are talking about situations where a unit is charged on one flank by a non-light unit and contacted on the other by a LI. So there would be a loss of cohesion in the target unit.
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