Art De La Guerre

[Mark G Fry]

This has probably been asked previously but ...

Can I deploy Fortifications in Ambush?

It's got historical precedents as a tactic - Irish plashing in woods and the AD9 German forest fortifications of Arminius (& I am sure there will be others - probably Chinese examples).

This assumes that the terrain is placed in such a way that Ambush markers can be placed anyway.

If it is allowed - do the fortifications count towards the number of units in the ambush or are they extra (& if they are extra how many can I include in the ambush?)

Many thanks

Mark

[Ramses II]

The basic answer is no. All fortifications are placed on table at the same time as the camp, in the deployment area (p69).
However, you can place ambush markers near / behind the visible fortification provided they comply with their rules on placement (p70).

[Mark G Fry]

Many thanks - I sort of guessed as much - but I thought I'd give it a try

[daveallen]

Sneaky.

BTW, did anyone ever use plashing under WRG?

And was it in any way effective?

As in was anyone ever stupid enough to notice there were a number of points missing from their opponent's army and then decide to have a mooch around in the nearest forest to see what might jump out?
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[Mark G Fry]

You know me Dave

If there's an oddity I'll sniff it out ... personally I'd allow it, but I understand that if the rules say they have to be deployed ahead of the ambush markers going down then it's a no no

The thought of LF javs in ambush behind fortifications, in a wood seemed like a nice idea at the time

I have both an Irish and an Ancient German & both use plashing.
I think under WRG you could only use the plashing in a wood - so if you'd bought it and the terrain fell in such a way that your woods were outside the deployment area for the fortifications you couldn't use them. But whether you lost the points I cannot remember

Irregular Miniatures do very nice 15mm and 28mm plashing - if anybody is interested.