Art De La Guerre

[madaxeman]

If you are contacted to flank or rear, your combat factor drops to zero.

Is this only in the turn when you are initially contacted (ie "charged") in the flank or rear, or does it drop to zero in every turn where you have an enemy in contact with your flank or rear?
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[eudes]

If you have only one opponent on flank/rear 0 factor combat is for the first turn then after the combat is resolved you conform to your opponent and fight front to front with your factor.

If you have two opponents you stay with 0 combat factor until you have no opponent on flank/rear.
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[Hazelbark]

p 57
first full paragraph after the bullets.

"as long as the unit has an a enemy in melee against its flank or rear"

[Soranon]

Only if the unit on the flank isn't LI or LC.

Light troops charging a flank only cancel special abilities like impact, impetuous, javelot...

[bikeman]

From my reading of the rules (refer my post yesterday), I understand that a unit's attack value is reduced to ) (zero) only if 'charged' in the flank (or rear). If it is 'otherwise contacted' on the flank (e.g. by a 'conformance'), then it loses a cohesion point but does not have its factor reduced to zero.

[madaxeman]

p 57
first full paragraph after the bullets.

"as long as the unit has an a enemy in melee against its flank or rear"
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[bikeman]

Page 59 paragraphs under 'Multiple Opponents' describe how cohesion points are deducted and limits the cohesion deduction to 'only during the phase in which it is contacted'.

The last para. in the section specifically states that 'the same rules are applied to basic factors and combat abilities' and refers back to page 56.

This would appear to limit the reduction of the basic factor to zero to only the initial 'contact phase' and not subsequent combat phases.

Finally (on my part), I don't know why there is an 'if' in the reference to disorder as a unit contacted on its flank loses a cohesion point anyway and will automatically be disordered (reducing its basic factor to -1)?

[madaxeman]

Page 56,
- penultimate paragraph: '..basic factor reduced to zero'

Basically, if you are hit in the flank, you fight at zero.

- last paragraph : '..the same applies to a unit in melee with several enemies .."

If you have enemy in contact on 2 sides, you fight at zero

P55 - if you are hit only on the flank, you then conform ... and so as you no longer have enemy in contact with your flank, so no longer fight at zero.

Page 59 goes on to say that if you are fighting to the front and are hit in the flank at the same time you also lose a cohesion point immediately as well as (p56) fighting at zero.

If you are just hit in the flank alone, you don't lose a cohesion point so won't be disordered ... but you do fight at zero
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[bikeman]

Madaxeman; Thanks. It's beginning to make sense now. I see that my armies have been being 'robbed' in the last 2 games.

[Hazelbark]