Art De La Guerre

[KevinD]

1. If a general is in combat and rolls a 1 so can’t issue any orders to have his troops make any moves, can his troops roll to stop looting?

2. If you are looting a camp, roll a 4-6 to stop, but don’t then move them so remain in contact with the camp, are you still looting and need to roll a 4-6 to leave in the future?

[Neep]

I read it as: roll to accept orders -> accept orders -> stop looting
So even a zero cost rally would stop looting. (Although it brings up the question of whether you can rally if you have no cohesion hits.)
But no order, looting continues.

[Neep]

So if you are less than 4UD from the enemy camp, can you rally for free at 3-6?

[SteveR]

Huh? Sure he can roll. It wont do anything but if you want to see if you can roll a 4-6 who am I to stop you. Just say you are retroactively rolling for a water way

To be clear, the roll of 4-6 is to be able to issue an order to stop looting.

If you make that roll you may then issue an order.

If you fail that roll you may not

Under any circumstances if an order to stop looting is not given you do not stop looting. This is because you have not been ordered to stop looting.

I don't think you can "bank" the roll of 4-6 for use on a later turn.

Comprehensive?

(and I don't see where rallying has anything to do with this.)

[Neep]

Rallying is an order.

The question about the effect of an (unlooted) camp is just a side track.

[Andy Fyfe]

[Neep]

I would argue that it's more than 4UD from all enemies and it's not in melee "with an enemy". but clearly we are in coin toss territory.

Nice catch BTW.

[Dickstick]

The baggage is an enemy so in contact is within 4 ud.

Or are we looting friendly baggage now?
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[Neep]

Once the baggage is successfully looted, it becomes an impassible bit of terrain. Except you are still in melee with it, which prevents your impetuous units from making uncontrolled charges (and being shot at?). That leaves the question of whether you can rally for 0CP moot because while you are in melee, you are not in melee with an enemy unit (page 55).
Now if the baggage is unlooted, it is "treated as an enemy unit" - page 66. But does that make it an enemy unit for the purpose of rallying, page 55? I suppose it does, though I'm always wary of treating the preambles as bullet points. Note that the first bullet (page 66) is pointless as you cannot make a 2d or 3d move within 4UD (page 34). The second bullet is either making an exception for impetuous mounted to treat fortified camps as "behind a fortification" or making an exception for impetuous foot to not treat fortified camps as "behind a fortification". Do looting units flee a flank march?

Nitpicking, I know...