Art De La Guerre

[Jhykronos]

p.27:

"When a commander is attached to a unit, he stays attached to it until the end of the game turn or until the end of the melee if it is engaged in combat."

"It" is used twice in this sentence, so most logically refers to the unit, not the commander. However, the phrase "engaged in combat" is pretty much used elsewhere in the rules to refer to commanders, not units.

Does this mean that if a commander is attached to a unit in melee, he cannot move and attach to another unit during the movement phase, even if he himself is not engaged in melee? Or is the translation picking the wrong pronoun here, and the commander is only stuck with the unit if he himself is fighting?
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[Black Prince]

If a general is attached to a unit in melee/ combat but you have not included the general's factor (+1) in melee then the general is not fighting with the unit and is free to move to another unit.

[Jhykronos]

That's how we've played it for years.

OTOH, that is not what that sentence says.
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[daveallen]

As you say, the phrase "engage(d) in combat" is used in that rule to describe when the commander is fighting in a melee.

Both "he" and "it" translate to "il" in French, so let's go with the simplest solution - it's a mistranslation and the general is only stuck with a unit in melee if he is engaged in combat.

Dave
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[MC_Delicatessen]

The first it is the unit
The second it should be he/she.
I like to think of it as being a very progressive non-binary-friendly approach to writing.
Excellent spot. I'm impressed!

[Ramses II]

[daveallen]

[Ballista]

Situation: Commander attached to a unit in his turn.
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In following enemy turn this unit evades off table.

Question is - does the commander have to go with the unit (off table) or is he free to move to another unit ?

[KevinD]

I think if you were attached and have not subsequently “detached” you go with it off table, but clarification or confirmation about this would be welcome. See p 27 about “detaching”.

[Ballista]

The very last sentence says ".... he stays attached to it until the end of the game-turn pr until the end of ...."

Game turn ended with defenders turn, new game turn now with attackers turn - so can he then stay there and not evade off table ?

[Ramses II]

The penultimate sentence of Attaching a commander to a unit states

[madaxeman]

[Neep]

That's so right and so wrong at the same time!

[Ballista]