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gregfilip
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MessagePosté le: Ven Fév 21, 2020 12:58 pm    Sujet du message: Worlds lists/list checker and deadlines Répondre en citant
Worlds
Patras Greece 19-20-21/6/2020.
Version (Adlg V3) with latest Faq and amendments
6 games .
FORMAT (Open tournament 1 list allowed)
Official list Checker .(HUBERT BRETAGNE )
email for lists ...(hubbzh314@yahoo.com )
Deadline for lists .
24/5/20 .
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MessagePosté le: Ven Fév 21, 2020 6:20 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
gregfilip a écrit:
Worlds
Patras Greece 19-20-21/6/2020.
Version (Adlg V3) with latest Faq and amendments
6 games .
FORMAT (Open tournament 1 list allowed)
Official list Checker .(HUBERT BRETAGNE )
email for lists ...(hubbzh314@yahoo.com )
Deadline for lists .
24/5/20 .


Can't we have a 2-list format, like every other Worlds (well, in the last couple of years..) please?
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MessagePosté le: Ven Fév 21, 2020 7:25 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Two lists would make a big difference. 
I know it  makes life harder for the Hubert administration. But makes the competition much better. Cuts down on elephants for a start...
Means a lot more armies are viable. 
Dave. 



madaxeman a écrit:
gregfilip a écrit:
Worlds
Patras Greece 19-20-21/6/2020.
Version (Adlg V3) with latest Faq and amendments
6 games .
FORMAT (Open tournament 1 list allowed)
Official list Checker .(HUBERT BRETAGNE )
email for lists ...(hubbzh314@yahoo.com )
Deadline for lists .
24/5/20 .


Can't we have a 2-list format, like every other Worlds (well, in the last couple of years..) please?
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MessagePosté le: Ven Fév 21, 2020 7:58 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
madaxeman a écrit:
gregfilip a écrit:
Worlds
Patras Greece 19-20-21/6/2020.
Version (Adlg V3) with latest Faq and amendments
6 games .
FORMAT (Open tournament 1 list allowed)
Official list Checker .(HUBERT BRETAGNE )
email for lists ...(hubbzh314@yahoo.com )
Deadline for lists .
24/5/20 .


Can't we have a 2-list format, like every other Worlds (well, in the last couple of years..) please?


I would like to go on record as not caring whether we are allowed one list or two. Either choice just gives the players a different set of constraints.

<shrug>

Marc
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hunterhope
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MessagePosté le: Ven Fév 21, 2020 8:32 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
I am also happy with one list. Mainly because I'll only have a cabin bag for luggage!
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gregfilip
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MessagePosté le: Ven Fév 21, 2020 11:02 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
After discussion between me and the technical board the 1 list open theme was decided !!
the first official anouncement at 16\10\19 included the 1 llist decision as well .
I m pretty sure we will see something new in that tournament

The basic concept behind the 1 list idea was to prevent some major armies fielding almost anything by usage of 2 lists and be strong and competitive against almost anything .
There is a risk behind that decision though which we all took .
we ll see what players will think of armies selection and bring with them .

GREG.
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MessagePosté le: Sam Fév 22, 2020 9:13 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Although, of course, I respect the organization,s last saying, I agree with Tim and Dave, for an open tournament I definetely go for two lists
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MessagePosté le: Sam Fév 22, 2020 9:21 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
For a completely open competition, I too would prefer two lists - really just to avoid the lottery of choosing either knights, elephants or the very clever list that just about copes with the first two kinds of opponents but struggles to do very well.

But, like Inaki, I fully respect the decision of the organisers of the competition to choose a one-list format, because they are doing all the hard work. 

Gordon
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Hazelbark
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MessagePosté le: Sam Fév 22, 2020 9:33 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
I can see the argument for both 1 and 2 lists. Here are the top 10 armies from the last few Worlds that could have contained Elephants. It seems the simpler options is just to ban the previous years top 1 or 2 or 3 armies. I.E. get rid of the Yuan. Getting rid of the Ghaznavids will just make those players adopt the very similar versions of the army.

I must admit banning the Yuan is also personal for me, as they were the only army to defeat in the past two worlds. Smile Embarassed

Worlds 2019
1 Yuan
2 Timurid
5 Khurasan
7 Siamese

World 2018
1 Yuan
3 Ghaznavid
4 Seleucid
5 Alexander
6 Arab Indian
8 Ghaznavid

World 2017
1 Ghaznavid
2 Yuan
7 Alexander
8 Ghaznavid

World 2016
1 Yuan
8 Classical Indian
10 Yuan


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MessagePosté le: Sam Fév 22, 2020 9:45 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
World 2019
54 players
20 could have elephants
3 Yuan, 2 Timurid, 7 macedon types, 6 were various elephant+ maneuver types

World 2018
30 players
14could have elephants
5 Yuan, 3 macedon types, 3 were various elephant+ maneuver types

World 2017
42 players
13 could have elephants
3 Yuan, 3 macedon types, 5 were various elephant+ maneuver types
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MessagePosté le: Sam Fév 22, 2020 9:48 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
The last 3 Worlds were 2-list events.  I think Belgium was the last/first/only 1-list event, which was also when many of the non-French players were quite new to the rules 
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MessagePosté le: Mar Fév 25, 2020 5:32 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
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The last 3 Worlds were 2-list events.  I think Belgium was the last/first/only 1-list event, which was also when many of the non-French players were quite new to the rules 


Yea, but the data (remember when you believed in data) is the issue, if there is one, is very narrow.
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